When and when not to FE

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We found this great post on Reddit posted bu HUGS on When and when not to FE. It makes complete sense and may help some of our readers.

All credit goes to HUGS, the original post can be found here.

There seems to be an ongoing conflict in the DarkNet Market community about when it is acceptable to FE.

In every Moronic Monday post there is inevitably that one person who asks the question of “Is it okay to FE for vendor so-and-so?”, followed by the arguments.

I’d like to shed some light on this and post my opinion. Keyword here isopinion.

Do as you please, and your experiences may not match with mine, but I’d like to share.

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  1. When you are okay with possibly never seeing your money or product again.
    Example: I see a new vendor who is offering an eighth of medical bud for $15 as an introductory offer. I have extra money left in my account, I’m not gonna be in a bind if the vendor doesn’t come through, so I FE per his requirements. Whether the product comes or not, the worst thing is that I lose $15.
  2. When you are confident, absolutely positive that the vendor will still ship the product.
    I have to put an asterisk beside this one because even upstanding, well-known vendors have made FE a requirement and then split with the money.

    Anyone remember LucyDrop from SR? Most popular LSD vendor in his time. Required FE.

    Three months went by without a single complaint. Then BOOM! The vendor stopped shipping and walked away with over a million in BTC.

    Point is that even if a vendor is “trusted”, there’s still a chance that they will steal your BTC; but 99% of the time, trusted vendors will be honest and send your product.


  1. When you cannot afford to lose the money.
    This seems so common sense to me, but I continue to be amazed at the number of people who FE, get scammed, and lose money that either wasn’t theirs to begin with or money that they just couldn’t afford to lose.

    Example: If you’re a dealer and you borrow money from either customers or someone higher in the chain to make a purchase on a QP of some dank, you should NOT FE.

    If the vendor doesn’t send your product, you now owe money to many people. It doesn’t matter how good the deal looks or how reputable the vendor is, DO NOT FE.

  2. When the vendor is shady or there are reports of scamming.
    Since RCI is fresh on everyone’s mind, I will use him as an example.

    Someone posted a couple of days ago, angry that RCI had not sent his product.

    He had FE’d on one of the markets and therefore could do nothing about it except get upset and post here.

    Why FE in this situation? His order was placed after there were bad reviews coming in for RCI.

    Another example is the vendor Heisenberg.

    He’s a known selective scammer who loves when you go ahead and FE for him.

    You’re already taking a chance by ordering from him anyway, why increase that chance by FE’ing?

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